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Even More McCaskill Twittering

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by: Clark

Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 07:31:10 AM CST


As Michael noted, Claire McCaskill is now defending herself against Krugman on Twitter:

Just saw Krugman's comments on reduction in recov act. Question for him. Would no stimulus act be better than one thats 800 B instead of 900.

She follows that up with

Compromise had to happen or we would NOT have 60 votes. Period.

And for further evidence of how much the bill is the same, she claims:

Original Senate bill was 60% appropriationss, 40%tax cuts. Compromise was 58, 42.Senate bill is 90% the same as House bill.

I'm glad that's she expressing herself here, and that we're able to somewhat have a dialogue. But I'm not sure how much in good faith it is. McCaskill began by stating how glad she was that they got a $100 billion cut out of the bill, that the "silly stuff" that Republicans didn't like is now out. She then switches to a passive aggressive mode in defending the cuts - it's basically the same bill and it wouldn't have made it through the Senate - but glosses her own role in making the cuts. From the way she talks about the bill, wouldn't she have been among those voting against the bill if the cuts hadn't been made and new non-stimulative tax cuts hadn't been added in?

UPDATE: One of the last tweets from the only Twitter feed McCaskill is following (which is her press secretary's):

So glad that Claire was part of this moderate team Nelson is calling "the jobs squad". Very cool. Hopefully the others will see this is best 6:33 PM Feb 6th from web

...And another tweet from McCaskill's press secretary approvingly points to an awful article by Dana Milbank about how McCaskill, Lieberman, Lindsey Graham, and the other "moderates" are workhorses trying to get the bill done, while everyone else, including Harry Reid and Barack Obama, are just show ponies trying to get attention.

An excerpt below the fold:

Clark :: Even More McCaskill Twittering
"As I have explained to the people within that group, they cannot hold the president of the United States hostage," fumed Majority Leader Harry Reid (Nev.). "If they think they are going to rewrite this bill and Barack Obama's going to walk away from what he has been trying to do for the American people, they've got another thought coming."
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Holding the president hostage? This caused the workhorses to rear up.

"Oh, goodness, no," said Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) as he returned to the dealmaking table in Dirksen. "I'm for human rights."

And Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) chuckled at her leader's accusation. "A little dramatic, don't you think?"

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I think it is somewhat hilarious (3.00 / 3)
that it took Twitter for dialog with Claire to happen.  But .... ok.

I too doubt that this response is in good faith.  You are absolutely right she didn't originally Twitter that it was the only way to get the bill passed and it was a SHAME that the stuff had to be dropped.  NO.  She was proud.

It does sound like she would have voted against it without those cuts.  

I think it is becoming clear that she is in danger of being a one trick pony - she came out of a background of requiring efficiencies in spending and minimizing budgets and she's gonna continue to do that even when the times don't call for it.  


Did you see her on MTP? (0.00 / 0)
I had a Skype appointment with my wife, so I missed it. I've seen some glowing reviews, but they were tweets and FB updates, so not a lot of details. If it was about the exec. comp. measure, that's all well and good, but more evidence of the one-trick pony you mentioned.

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No (3.00 / 1)
I never watch Sunday morning TV.  I don't believe in supporting spin and that's all it ever is.

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twitter (0.00 / 0)
Politicians shouldn't twitter IMO.

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McCaskill is a huge part of the problem (0.00 / 0)
In case you haven't noticed, our Senator is a nitwit, a tool of corporate interests, and a collaborator with the worst, most anti-Democratic elements in the Congress.  She is a classic DINO.  She is an embarassment to our state.  When she appears on tv or even in her sophomoric twittering (a perfect word for what she does when she talks)it is as though she is a 13 year old girl just oh-so-excited to be involved and get to be on tv!  She is a lightweight of the first order and clearly in over her head.  She goes for easy headlines and then feeds her ego by getting involved with trairorous Democrats like Ben Nelson and agrees publicly with totally absurd and invalid Republican claims.  I pray to God someone runs against her sorry ass when she is up for reelection.

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Unlikely that she'll get a primary opponent (0.00 / 0)
But who knows?

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Yup, that's our Claire! (3.00 / 1)
Some days, I think Ike Skelton is more progressive.

It's "Groundhog Day" with her.  Every, and I mean EVERY time we see important votes or legislation come up, she craps on Democratic values EACH AND EVERY TIME.  We're always back in here bemoaning the fact that she's a huge disapointment and wonder when she'll start voting like a Democrat on IMPORTANT votes.  To date, she never has.

And please, nobody hit me with the "Talent would have been better" snark.  I didn't support her candidacy because I wanted another DINO in the Senate.  Kit Bond sure as hell doesn't waffle on his votes in order to curry favor with the left.  Not the way she seemingly does with the right.

We talk about electing "more, better Democrats" to Congress.  McCaskill is definitelyl a "more Democrat" but she sure as shit ain't better.

And yeah, she'll never be primaried out of existence.  She'll never see a dime of my money again.


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Meet the Stenographer... (0.00 / 0)
...and sit around the table with spinners:

Claire McCaskill's Twitter post:

That was hard. 4 people plus Gregory all trying to make points. We got in the weeds a little.

about 1 hour ago from TinyTwitter

Somehow writing a post in a new media genre that thrives on superficial sound bites about a broadcast media show which specializes in superficial sound bites, making an allusion that you had difficulty getting a word in edgewise, strikes me as ironic. But that could just be me...

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I think you could do well with Twitter (0.00 / 0)
Although I agree that it can also be superficial.

I was more annoyed at her concept of "in the weeds." For most of these bobblehead talkshows, talking about policy is getting "in the weeds"


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Well, I was finished with Claire over FISA (0.00 / 0)
because the constitution is even more important to me than jobs.  But for anyone who is of a different mind bent, aligning her with Nelson makes me think I was wrong to support her in the first place.  After all, Talent and Nelson would have been on the same side.

And you know what this makes me wonder?  Should I bother working for Robin Carnahan?  Maybe I'm wrong about her too.  


I've had the same thought (0.00 / 0)
I've had assurances from good people about Robin, but we were mostly excited about Claire too, back in the day.


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It's deja vu all over again. (0.00 / 0)
I guess we take what we can get dealing with the electoral realities on the ground here.  First we get "more" and hope we also get "better".

We were excited about McCaskill, hence why so many of us are pretty peeved at her time and time again.


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Evidently Claire's not reading blogs today (0.00 / 0)
Claire McCaskill's latest Twitter post:

Now the fun part of Sundays, digging into the newspapers. I love the Sunday papers. Hot tea and a big pile of papers. Perfect.

13 minutes ago from web

If she did, it might not be a very fun Sunday.

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I think it is very easy to sit back here (0.00 / 0)
and say what we would or wouldn't do and think it would be easy to to do it. But it would be tough to make those decisions knowing you have all the lives of the country in your hands. We are only really concerned with a very few, but the decisions she makes really concern the entire country.

As we see, there are just one or two votes making a difference in the Senate right now. And yes, I would rather have something than nothing. So if it takes this comprimise then yes that's what I want.

There was a comparison in the KC Star yesterday, there isn't a lot of difference between the House version and the Senate version. There are some differences, but what differences there are can possibly be made up in the budget or in bills later.

We, as progressives and democrats are fighting a huge battle. The entire country and the media is still in the mindset that anything against the Republican Party is Unpatriotic. Just as it used to be for the last 8 years. So they have been all over the TeeVee and still are telling everyone that this bill is nothing but PORK...it is wasteful spending, it is junk, it is nothing.. and they were winning the battle. They were winning it in the House, by joining together and voting against it in a block, every one of them even though Pres. Obama did everything in his power to try to get them to support the bill.

They even stood and lied, and were believed and never questioned when they said he didn't listen to them, he didn't do anything for them, they were shut out, when it was obvious that it was not true, yet not one media outlet ever called them on any of the lies ever.

Now, in the Senate the exact same thing is happening. And here you are, the Dems, the progressives falling right back into the same trap that all the rest are... instead of doing something constructive about it... you are shooting messenger.. Did any of you ever call the Senate and yell at Sen. Bond?? Did any of you ever call Roy Blunt?? Did any of you call Sam Graves?? Or any of the rest?? Have any of you done anything but complain about Claire???

There was a report on Mother Jones that the calls into the Congressional Switchboard was running 100 to 1 to the Republican Senators ... is it any wonder they are voting against this bill??

Sorry, for the long rant, but this is just getting to me. I live on a very low fixed income and I am just tired of everyone sitting around complaining but not really doing anything about it.  


Uh... (0.00 / 0)
There was a report on Mother Jones that the calls into the Congressional Switchboard was running 100 to 1 to the Republican Senators ... is it any wonder they are voting against this bill??

An astute politician knows from whence those calls originate. 100 to 1? When. From where? Is it a representative sample? Did it come on a Monday after the coordinated Sunday sermon? Trust me, Claire McCaskill knows how to read crosstabulations. She definitely should know better.

Oh yes, I call Kit Bond. I am ignored. When it comes to Claire McCaskill I've always known I won't get everything I want, but I wonder why the people who did everything in their power to make sure she didn't get into the Senate have a seat at the table and their memes and rhetoric are embraced, while I get to sit and watch from a distance. And yes, I worked my ass off to get her elected.

So, I will continue to praise Claire McCaskill when I believe she deserves it, and I will criticize her when I think it's appropriate. In this instance I think it's appropriate.

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That was the (0.00 / 0)
report from David Corn.. other than that I can't tell you. That was what he posted on his blog.

I get the same.. from Bond. He is an A** and from Claire I always get good responses... I can't say I really have a gripe about her...

I wrote to her the other day about some of the things I heard her say when she was on TeeVee and I objected to and I got back a very measured argument, we basically agreed to disagree...but at least I got my point across.. As I said, there has to be a compromise sometimes.

At least she will listen, that at least is something.  


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Well... (0.00 / 0)
I don't understand why you're defending McCaskill here. She was one of the people complaining about the "silly stuff" in the stimulus, and she advocated that it be cut. She was one of the people on the TeeVee you're talking about.

And the entire country does not believe that going against the Republican Party is wrong. We elected a Democratic president and overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress, actually expanding our majorities after a previous election when - again - everyone was supposed to believe that going against the Republican Party was wrong. The Republican Party is extremely unpopular, and if we had more Sherrod Browns and fewer McCaskills, I wouldn't be complaining about obnoxious tweets from a senator who has disappointed me greatly.

Finally, what do you mean everyone is sitting around complaining? We have all called our reps and both senators. (BTW, my experience is that most reps do not give a hoot about you if you aren't a voter in their district, unless you have some campaign contributions for them.)

What are you doing to make sure the bill is changed for the better, besides writing to McCaskill and accepting her argument against it?


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Claire's quite a peice of work... (3.00 / 1)
Last week she was attracting media attention everywhere by rants against CEO bonus' and calling them idiots. This week on MTP she lectures us on the dangers of populism and tells we are NOT bailing out CEO's but rather banks and the financial system.

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Arrogant asshole (0.00 / 0)
"Oh, goodness, no," said Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) as he returned to the dealmaking table in Dirksen. "I'm for human rights."
[emphasis added]

That smarmy son of a bitch should have been stripped of his committee assignments and kicked out of the caucus.

A Small Clique Of Legal Extremists...

Lieberman says some waterboarding OK
by Peter Urban  02/15/2008 01:39:42 AM EST
Connecticut Post

Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman reluctantly acknowledged Thursday that he does not believe waterboarding is torture...

...In the worst case scenario - when there is an imminent threat of a nuclear attack on American soil - Lieberman said that the president should be able to certify the use of waterboarding on a detainee suspected of knowing vital details of the plot.

"You want to be able to use emergency tech to try to get the information out of that person," Lieberman said. Of course, Lieberman believes such authority has limits. He does not believe the president could authorize having hot coals pressed on someone's flesh to obtain that information.

...The difference, he said, is that waterboarding is mostly psychological and there is no permanent physical damage. "It is not like putting burning coals on people's bodies. The person is in no real danger. The impact is psychological," Lieberman said...

[emphasis added]

And then he should have to answer at The Hague.

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I made sure to quote that paragraph (0.00 / 0)
Just for you, Michael.

I get the sense that Milbank is actually trolling a bit here.


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